Good for the Jews?

I had a political conversation a few Shabbosim ago with a Rabbi who was very tied in politically, ie: he knows Joseph Lieberman personally. We talked about the upcoming presidential election of course. His view was that everyone should vote for McCain (or Republican in general) as they’re “good for the Jews”.

He claimed only the Republicans will keep the money flowing to Israel and that Obamas being advised by Jimmy Carter who is very anti-Israel. I argued that no candidate will reverse fifty years of foreign policy that is pro-Israel and furthermore, every candidate knows they need to be pro-Israel to be elected as the most sizable voting block is pro-Israel Christians as well as wealthy Jews who spend a lot of money on lobbyists. Furthermore, I argued that the Republican War on Terror is bad for Israel. First of all, the war is wrong and we’re not accomplishing anything by occupying a country where the people don’t want us there and which generates worldwide ill will for America. Secondly, this war is nothing but a catalyst for more terror as Muslims now have a sense of persecution from the west. The opinion of many right wingers as well as Muslims is that Israel is using its powerful ally to remove regimes that are anti-Zionist. Someone else argued that if America leaves Iraq then Iran will take over. So? I think history has proved that Muslims can’t handle democracy. No fundamentally religious country can. Democracy means that anyone can get into power and the will of the people chooses its leaders and policies. That doesn’t mesh too well with Islam. Muslims can only be ruled by a dictator who will enforce policies with a military hand. Its not good from a humanist standpoint, but its the only time they’re at peace for any substantial length of time.

Also, saying that only American money will keep Israel going is like saying that Israel will crumble without foreign aid. Whether that’s true or not, isn’t that a lack of faith in G-D? And I don’t think the hishtadlus argument applies here. I believe Israel picking leaders who can lead and hold the country together politically is far more important than America sending more guns.

Am I wrong here?

5 Responses to “Good for the Jews?”

  1. It almost seems like you’re hoping an intellectual will stumble across your site.


  2. It was one of the first posts. I was still hoping anyone would stumble across my site.

  3. […] His pastor is far more anti-American than anything else. Does that mean Obama hates America and is only running for president to destroy it from within? The rest of the article mentions how apparantly all of his advisors hate Israel, are pro-Hamas and even worked for President Carter. That would only matter if they were his foreign policy advisors, which none of the ones mentioned are, with the exception of the ex-Carter one. Israel managed alright during the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and he’s confirmed to be pro-Palestine. Who says that this advisor even shared his views? Everything else related to Obama and Israel I wrote about much earlier. […]

  4. […] All that aside, the Jewish press really doesn’t like Obama. In the issue two weeks ago, Mishpacha published a large photo of Obama squinting into the sun, making him look really odd, and I’ve received the same letter from two separate Jewish organizations warning how bad Obama will be for Israel. I’ve already stated my opinion on Israel and American politics earlier. […]

  5. All of these comments seem to beg the question as to whether Israel could survive one day without America?

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